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[Your say] Can you answer this Leaving Cert maths Q?

With all the pularver about the maths papers and results we thought we’d see if the general ...
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[Your say] Can you answer this Leaving Cert maths Q?

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id="_mcePaste">With all the pularver about the maths papers and results we thought we’d see if the general public can answer a guestion from the  Leaving Certificate Examination, 2012 Sample Paper.
Its from the Higher Level Paper 2 Sample test so its a toughie!

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href="https://www.facebook.com/kennyfrancis">Francis Kenny That would be an ecumenical matter……

href="https://www.facebook.com/kendo.d.nagasaki">Kendo Danger Nagasaki No.

href="https://www.facebook.com/clive.gt">Clive Kenny ”Ž43

href="https://www.facebook.com/tommie.loughran">Tommie Loughran is the answer ” john travolta” ?

href="https://www.facebook.com/austindcom">Austin O’Meara DOC = DEC there is no such angle as O does not join directly to C and D does not join directly to E… its probably wrong but that’s my answer.

href="https://www.facebook.com/alanpbourke">Alan Bourke Well, you have to add the line that would make those angles I’d say.

href="https://www.facebook.com/ashynaughton">Aisling Naughton The solution comes from the fact that odec is a cyclic quadrilateral.

href="https://www.facebook.com/CriostoirORaghallaigh">Croistoir Reilly I would say A.false

href="https://www.facebook.com/EoinOCallaghan82">Eoin O’ Callaghan You cannot answer it as DOC and DEC do not exist

href="https://www.facebook.com/anthony.leahy.50">Anthony Leahy Seriously…. I mean seriously!!!!

href="https://www.facebook.com/ashynaughton">Aisling Naughton You can draw them in!

href="https://www.facebook.com/alanpbourke">Alan Bourke If I had been studying for it I’d say it would be easy – however I did my leaving in 1987 and have had no real-world application of Euclidean geometry since outside of playing pool in pubs.

href="https://www.facebook.com/kieran.stack">Kieran Stack If I could understand what they were looking for, I could answer it.

href="https://www.facebook.com/chinchillas.are.terrible">Fionán O’Sullivan I have discovered a truly marvellous proof of this, which this comment box is too narrow to contain.

href="https://www.facebook.com/elainedebrun">Elaine Brown No ha!!

href="https://www.facebook.com/john.cartner.1">John Cartner that looks like my route home from the pub last weekend

href="https://www.facebook.com/justinconboy">Justin Conboy It’s a mistake

href="https://www.facebook.com/eoghan.ryan.71">Eoghan Ryan Also, the length from C – E is the same as C – O and if D – C is constant, the angles must remain the same.

href="https://www.facebook.com/seanieoh">Seánie O’h Yes I can answer the question. Although the answer will probably be incorrect!

href="https://www.facebook.com/marcus.boland1">Marcus Boland Get a scissors and cut them out if they match Job done= QED

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style="font-weight: bold;" href="https://www.facebook.com/decie.dockery" target="_blank">Decie Dockery

I don’t think it’s an angle, on a separate note my name is Dec Doc.

href="https://www.facebook.com/jason.mcdonnell.336" target="_blank">Jason McDonnell

Annalise Murphy’s sailing route in the 8th race of the regatta during the Olympics?

href="https://www.facebook.com/conordarcy" target="_blank">Conor Darcy

Battle of Hastings, 1066.

href="https://www.facebook.com/karen.tighe1" target="_blank">Karen Tighe

This looks like it might be maths… I have never needed to do anything like this to get through life and have got through pretty well. Can you not ask us an interesting question instead.

href="https://www.facebook.com/john.gorman.7334" target="_blank">John Gorman

Trick question. ABC is actually a square.

href="https://www.facebook.com/CaptainQuestionable" target="_blank">Tara Kennedy

There was a reason I did ordinary level…

href="https://www.facebook.com/jp33441" target="_blank">John Sumner

tara what are the levels

href="https://www.facebook.com/ger.moore.144" target="_blank">Ger Moore

True both are right angles.

href="https://www.facebook.com/pilar.gonzalez.7921" target="_blank">Pilar Gonzalez

I like turtles.

href="https://www.facebook.com/oconnorpc" target="_blank">Paul O’Connor

Haven’t done matchs in 16 years but has to be based on the following facts.

DOEC is a quadrilateral, where each angle of the quadrilateral will total 360 degrees.

Since angle ODC and OEC are both 90 degrees the sum of DOE and DCE has to equal 180 degrees.

Because every triangle has to total 180 degrees.

then if we assumed a value for angle DOE or angle DCE we should be able to prove DOC = DEC.

href="https://www.facebook.com/ciaran.kavanagh2" target="_blank">Ciarán Kavanagh

the question is flawed! the angle represented by doc is not equal to that of dec. with c remaining constant in both triangles, the angle at d becomes more acute in dec than it does in doc where it is a right angle….thus the question cannot be answered!

href="https://www.facebook.com/garrett.brien" target="_blank">Garrett O’ Brien

That’s what I thought but when I looked again I saw that what they are talking about is where the two right angle signs are.

href="https://www.facebook.com/colin.brennan.7169" target="_blank">Colin Brennan

Its one of thoses bloody proofs it would take way long to right out… Like these triangles never proved anyway useful in the outside world!

href="https://www.facebook.com/jason.lee.3572" target="_blank">Jason Lee

its to do with trinangles havin 180 degrees total and working out all the angle so that certain angles equal each other usin geometry.

href="https://www.facebook.com/austindcom" target="_blank">Austin O’Meara

DOC = DEC there is no such angle as O does not join directly to C and D does not join directly to E… its probably wrong but that’s my answer.

href="https://www.facebook.com/bill.mcdonnell.18" target="_blank">Bill McDonnell

What is a guestion? They asked questions in my day. English spelling test fail…

href="https://www.facebook.com/jay.galligan" target="_blank">Jaay Galligan

I would imagine that this question has an error in it, as there is no angle DOC or DEC….

href="https://www.facebook.com/EoinOCallaghan82" target="_blank">Eoin O’ Callaghan

The two angles don’t exit?…been 13 years so I could just be rusty:)

href="https://www.facebook.com/vakaveronica" target="_blank">Ver-Monica Níc An STúdaire

Yes I believe that you are correct. Unless we’re missing something. There is no DOC angle nor DEC angle. There’s a DOE and BOD. Or I’m just blind and rusty at maths too!

href="https://www.facebook.com/gillian.scannell.9" target="_blank">Gillian Scannell

I think DOEC is a cyclic quadrilateral and that both angles are equal because they lie on the arc DC?? Not sure :-/

href="https://www.facebook.com/peter.machale" target="_blank">Peter MacHale

O is the orthocentre of the triangle ABC, draw a line from C perpendicular to AB and it will go through O. This will show you the angle DOC. Then draw a line from D to E to show the angle DEC.

href="https://www.facebook.com/lowcarbken" target="_blank">Ken Armstrong

Yes, DOC = DEC Both are right angles – Can I have my 500 points now.

href="https://www.facebook.com/chris.primo.5" target="_blank">Chris Primo ·Â  The two angles (<DOC and <DEC) do not exist.

href="https://www.facebook.com/gudenfast" target="_blank">Darren Flynn

The angles do exist – they just ain’t drawn in…
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href="https://www.facebook.com/gudenfast" target="_blank">Darren Flynn

Also (<ABE = <ADE)
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href="https://www.facebook.com/chris.primo.5" target="_blank">Chris Primo ·

Oh…I get it…ok. That looks about right. I suppose now I have to do the darn proof.

href="https://www.facebook.com/damian.hanlon.7" target="_blank">Damian Hanlon

So that’s a triangle.

href="https://www.facebook.com/steven.kelly.3954" target="_blank">Steven Kelly ·

ABC, 123. QED


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