The HSE continues to try and manage the fallout from a ransomware attack on its IT systems, as it attempts to bring as many computer services back online without compromising security or private data.

It’s still not known how much money was asked for, but numerous Government ministers – including Justice Minister Heather Humphreys this morning have said that a ransom will not be paid.

Tony O’Brien, former Director General of the HSE, columnist with the Business Post and Jude McCorry, the new Chair of the Cyber Scotland partnership and also the CEO of the Scottish Business Resilience Centre joined Kieran on the Hard Shoulder.