We’ve been speaking over the last few days about city centres and opening up following the pandemic.

And when large crowds gather, there tends to be plenty of rubbish laying in their wake.

My next guest lives in the UK, in Devon - a hotspot for visitors, particularly when the weather is good - and she has been part of an initiative to clean up litter in the area.

Jennie Bond, the former BBC Royal Correspondent, tells Kieran why it's such a bug bear of hers.