The Prime Minister New Zealand Jacinda Ardern has vowed to never to utter the name of the man responsible for the mosque massacres that took place in Christchurch last week.

In an emotional address to a special meeting of parliament she asked people “speak the names of those who were lost rather than the name of the man who took them,”

John O’Keefe Criminologist and Lecturer in Forensic Psychology joined Ivan to discuss why society often   focus on the perpetrator rather than the victims of a high profile crimes.