Now if I told you that there is an Irish business that has generated more than €40 billion of cash  in the last ten years, you'd probably tell me it sounds like an amazing success story.

Well there is such a business, but opinion is very much divided on whether it has been a success or not.

The business is a state owner entity - and if you haven't guessed by now, it is NAM, which was set up ten years ago this month.

Newstalk's Deputy Business Editor, Gavin McLoughlin, joined Ivan to reflect on how the agency has fared.