As fears of a Ukrainian invasion escalate, we hear from Irishman Bradley Stafford who is living there. Also, Pat was joined on the show by Mary Seery Kearney, FG Senator and Spokesperson on Children, Disability, Equality, Integration, and Privacy Rights to discuss couples exploring the possibility of entering into new surrogacy arrangements in Ukraine should “seriously consider” whether it is appropriate at this time, due to the precarious security situation.

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