It goes without saying that we must all pull together in the effort to push back the spread of Covid-19 among our communities, but saying it and doing it are two very different things.

It is essential that we all maintain a positive outlook in the face of a third lockdown but how might we do that when our mood slumps or if we begin to dwell on the difficulties and challenges we're facing?

Helen Vaughan, Psychotherapist and owner of Maynooth Counselling joined Susan to discuss.

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